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Links 1 through 10 of 23 by Simon Phipps tagged torture

No, not spin, he really means it. A sad illustration of the gaping intellectual chasm in American politics.

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"Believers in coercive interrogation tend to believe that people will 'tell the truth' as a result but much evidence suggests that people will, in fact, tell those conducting the torture what they think will make the torture stop."

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This is well worth reading: a clear rebuttal of Cheney's advocacy of torture, deserves a wide audience especially on the right wing of US politics where the credibility of otherwise valuable voices is being tarnished by their embrace of Cheney. He is Machiavellian in the truest sense, including believing what he says and remaining consistent to it - dangerous, toxic and bad for us all.

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Well worth reading this commentary from the sort of professional Cheney claims to be speaking for.

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"Former vice president Richard B. Cheney is asking for the release of two CIA reports in his bid to marshal evidence that coercive interrogation tactics such as waterboarding helped thwart terrorist plots" -- Cheney just doesn't get it. What most people care about is whether it was torture or not, and the evidence that's just appeared is overwhelming. Justifying it like this just proves his amorality.

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I agree with the NYT here. The benchmark has to be transparency with privacy, not secrecy with controlled disclosure. I think Obama was probably right to protect the CIA agents from prosecution, but as the depravity is exposed it's hard to see why that protection should be maintained for the ringleaders.

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So, get this - torture doesn't work and makes it hard to bring a valid law suit against the suspect. Who knew?

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The proposal is to investigate rights abuse including torture and illegal surveillance. Instinctively I believe Obama will choose not to pursue Bush, preferring to leave history to its own means to judge him.

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"I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo."

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Powerful statement on liberty in Harpers.

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