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Links 1 through 8 of 8 by Clint JCL tagged ASCAP

How is this any different from ASCAP charging karaoke vendors hundreds of dollars a month for them to play the music they already purchased on machines they already own? Does anyone really think that when you karaoke a song, a single penny goes to the original artist? Is anyone really that deluded?

I had this argument with a musician girl I used to talk to. Years later, I dug up the thread, and asked, "So, have you gotten a penny from ASCAP yet?"

No response, of course. Ignorant artists are complicit in this scheme too.

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Will intellectual property laws squelch open mic from our culture?
Will we destroy art in order to save it?

Ahh, ASCAP. The ones who sued the boy scouts for singing around the campfires. The ones who made it so restaurants can't sing us "Happy Birthday", even though the artists that are being "protected" have been dead for half a century.

ASCAP actually told one guy that if people use guitars in his cafe, they owe him money. Wow.

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ASCAP protect artists? Hah. Love the spin they had to put on what they said after the backlash. Stupid corporate dinosaurs will die; we don't need companies to get our music to each other anymore. We can make money via our own arrangements, thank you.

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Yup. It's not enough that you buy the hardware, and buy the game, WHICH HAS ALREADY LICENSED MUSIC ON IT. If you put a game in an arcade, the ASCAP is going to demand money from you. ASCAP is saying these are not licensed, though. So why aren't they going after Activision/Konami? It's just easier to pick on the little guy with your army of lawyers, I guess.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Guitar Hero is basically free advertising for popular music. I know a bunch of popular songs I'd never have been interested in otherwise. I guess they don't want anyone to accidentally start liking any music.

And of course the music will go to the artists, right? (ha.. haha.. hahaha... hahahahaha)

Oh wait. A lot of Guitar Hero games intentionally used covers so as to not give as much money to the artists! Funny how the big people can avoid paying the artists, but the little people are bullied after already buying it.

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The pathetic, dying dinosaur of our current music industry whines some more about iTunes. They want performance fees. Even for the 30 second preview snippet you get to decide if you want to download them. They want performance fees for songs used in tv shows -- even the TV shows already pay often exorbitant prices to license songs they use.

Remember back in the day, when the music industry paid the radio to play their shit? The Payola scandal? Total opposite of today. Now they want to be paid every which way.

The justifications they use are silly too. As if this is about the people who write the background music during shows. As if those people can't refuse to give up rights that cause them not to be paid.

As if anyone really deserves to be paid for their work after they are done doing it. I wrote some computer code that's still in use. Why aren't I getting paid every time it's run? Oh, I'm not an artist, so I don't get special artist treatment.

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Yes, ASCAP. The folks who sued the Girl Scouts for singing around campfires.

The folks who made it so most restaurants sing a stupid song instead of Happy Birthday, because Happy Birthday is copyrighted. (even though the people who created it are DEAD, and the song wasn't copyrighted until decades after its existence)

The folks who claim "protect the artists", but cannot possibly know how to dole out the money to the artists, since a) there's no records of what songs are played everywhere, and b) many of the artists are DEAD.

Hey -- My dad wrote computer code. Can I buy the royalties to that? Maybe everytime computer code that my dad or his dad runs, I should get royalties? Did your great-grandfather paint a house? Maybe everytime someone looks at that house, you should make money.

They also sue karaoke bars. And now ringtone makers. Nevermind that you paid for the ringtone -- You didn't pay ASCAP a license to publicly perform that ringtone! YOU PIRATING SCUM! YOU MUST HATE ART!

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The record companies will sue anybody in their fruitless quest to get as much money as possible. Of course, 90% of the money doesn't go to the artists. Don't some of you sing karaoke? Expect it to go away for legal fears, or get even more expensive.

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Now the ASCAP is making a new money-grab -- trying to define song downloading as "public performance" to get more royalties.

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